New Order Mormon

[InvisibleChurch]

I'm really enjoying the John Dehlin interview with the Danzigs, although only the first part has been posted so far.

For those of you that have listened, what did you think of Mr. Danzig's story about his father's experience with Church Security? Has anyone else had problems with these people?
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"It would be very difficult to explain why the universe should have begun in just this way, except as the act of a God who intended to create beings like us." --Steven Hawking, "A Brief History of Time"

[star stuff]

I listened to this on the way to work this morning. It was a pretty interesting interview, even though I have no idea who the Danzig's are. They mentioned a number of times that they wrote some sort of letter, but I must have missed when they were explaining what the letter was about and why it was so important. Oh well, guess I will have to listen to part 2.

I agree that the stuff about his father and church security was very interesting. It was a very telling story about the way the church is run at that level. Kind of surprising if you ask me, and not at all what you would expect a church lead by Christ with living prophets to be run.
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Quote:"We are star stuff which has taken its destiny into its own hands." ~ Carl Sagan

[just me]

Now you have me all curious!

My only experience with church security was the Nauvoo temple night gaurd. He was awesome and helped us pick a lock. He was young and cute, too, and I was trying to think of who I could hook him up with.

Obviously not the type of security or experience you guys are talking about!
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[ChristFollower]

[star stuff]

Thanks Christ Follower, appreciate the clarification. I was a little lost there, even though I was enjoying the podcast.
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Quote:"We are star stuff which has taken its destiny into its own hands." ~ Carl Sagan

[ChristFollower]

[Nom de Cypher]

[InvisibleChurch]

The story I'm referencing is the one told by Peter Danzig about his father. The disturbing thing is the extremely aggressive way he was treated; it makes me wonder if there is an undercurrent of, shall we say, overzealous behavior within church security.

I can't get into the details, but when I was a kid I was involved in childish prank that involved sneaking onto Church property at the site of a well-known landmark. Needless to say, we got in a bit of trouble. One of the church security people told me that I was lucky to get out of the situation alive. Remember, this is nothing more than kids trespassing.
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"It would be very difficult to explain why the universe should have begun in just this way, except as the act of a God who intended to create beings like us." --Steven Hawking, "A Brief History of Time"

[Nom de Cypher]

I haven't heard the podcast yet, so I can't respond to Peter's father's story. But I can tell you that I have done computer-geeky things for the church and for several government agencies. I have found their security personnel to be equally as humorless as the places with the armed guards at the door.

On the other hand, I will use this thread to pontificate on a pet peeve of mine. In contrast to the over-blown sense of self-importance I've seen of the physical security dudes, I have seen a very casual attitude about computer security from the COB. It is for this reason that I always get up in y'alls faces when you suggest that the church is monitoring this board. I just don't think they are capable of it. In fact, I haven't seen any church spooks on my blog for months.
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-- Dathon

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[Liberal Mormon]

[Pablo]

[TheProudDuck]

[cynical]

[dogbite]

I've had a few in various wards, watched them on temple square, encountered them at funerals. One was EQ president. Total black and white thinker, no tact. Can't say he was a nice guy or spiritually led.

They're generally asses on power trips from god.